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What you’ll hear in this episode:

• Who Richard is
• Why bottling rainwater is a unique, sustainable process
• How Richard’s Rainwater is growing their company and brand

There is a real Richard behind Richard’s Rainwater. Richard Heinichen of Dripping Springs became obsessed with rainwater harvesting in the 1990s, so much so that he figured out how to build a whole-house collection system. He enjoyed the water so much that he didn’t want to go a day without it, so that gave him the idea to start bottling rainwater and in 2002 Heinichen became the first person in the United States to receive approval to bottle and redistribute rainwater.

Heinichen was a bit before his time, current CEO Taylor O’Neil explains. He was thinking in an incredibly innovative way and thinking about sustainable approaches to drinking water long before it was popular. However, his passion didn’t always translate into a drive to grow and scale his company. 

“[He] cared a lot more about catching rain and drinking it himself than telling people about it and selling the rainwater,” O’Neil explains, “so we invested in the company in late 2017, did some work on the packaging and have significantly ramped the business from a sales and marketing perspective and thought a lot about capacity expansion and how to scale of business is dependent on rain.”  

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Host: Axel Brave

Guest: Taylor O’Neil, CEO of Richard’s Rainwater

 

Transcript:

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hi everybody welcome the packing taste podcast I’m your host axle brought and this is the Texas I show about anything and everything that deals with food and beverage 

this week we’re gonna be talking with Taylor o’neill CEO of Richard rainwater I had the chance to chat with him about how this whole thing started how you even capture rain water bottle with and how he keeps motivated as the company’s CEO let’s jump right in 

thank you for coming on the show today Taylor thank you for having me yeah yeah we’re we’re excited I know it’s been a little hard to get you here but you’re finally here and funny enough it’s raining outside today so some of the only people that are happy when it’s raining yeah exactly exactly but let’s start off with telling us who is Richard does your Taylor o’neill the CEO so who is who’s Richard sure so Richards a real person he was the first person the United States to get approval for bottling rain water back in two thousand two before that he lived on hill country and was not satisfied with his water option so began exploring a whole home rain water system so the entire house ran on rainwater his dishwashers saying kids toilets and a bunch of his neighbor started coming over checking out the house and they all started asking him for the rain water system so he started by installing these systems for a bunch of people out in dripping springs Texas then then the story goes that one day he was out on the job too far away and it struck him that he should bottle rain water too because he didn’t want to go an entire day without drinking his own rain water so that started a four year process with the regulators in Texas to get approval for for the process but importantly for a process that had no chlorine involved in the entire pit sanitation so he got the first public water supply in the United States they didn’t use Korean at the same time that he got his rain water bottling license and then spent about fifteen years doing both businesses and selling the systems as well as selling the bottles I tell people he had some of the coolest clients in Austin many of which we continue to call customers today but cared a lot more about catching rain and drinking it himself than telling people about it and selling the rain water so we’ve invested in the company in late two thousand seventeen did some work on the packaging and have significantly ramp the business from a sales and marketing perspective and and thought thought a lot about capacity expansion and how to scale of business is dependent on rain and developed a bunch of really great partners from distribution perspective so he a real person a real innovator bit before his time but I think his thinking on clean water is increasingly relevant in our country as we deal with things like the Austin water boil ordinance yeah the smelly water that we had a couple weeks ago yeah here’s a bit before his time yes so I did and 

I’d love to get there in a bit but before we get there I think we should chat a little bit more about how you catch rainwater and how you put it in a bottle because when people think of rain water they think it’s dirty it’s the clouds are gray a wide with the drink that so if and and I read that you guys call it a cloud to bottle process and correct me if I’m wrong and this I don’t know anything about science other than the reverse osmosis sure it so if you can tell us a little bit about that so just so we know how this water is clean sure so we get the question a lot rainwater is actually the most naturally pure source of water on the planet we do triple filter is part of the process of getting approval for bottling rain water and extra backup safety measures just to absolutely insure that everything is pristine but honestly we’ve tested the source water before and after the purification for fifteen years and you’d be astonished at how clean the water is this the concept is really simple we catch the rain before it starts getting dirty so water is a natural Solomon it absorbs everything that it touches and there certainly some unique places left on earth where people are you know fewer and farther between then and in most developed parts of the United States where water goes through a process on its way to a source of drinking water that doesn’t make it more dirty but in a lot of cases in today’s world it’s going through things like fertilizer and pesticides and you know just natural contaminants from the development of humanity so are barred our concept again is simple it’s it’s about catching the rain before those things started being absorbed and then we trouble filter it so it goes through a micron filter then it hits ultraviolet light we do run it through a reverse osmosis machine however the interesting thing about that is we pump what’s called the brine so this the part the part of why they get separated out through that your vacation back into our starting tank and use it again in in our water process because it’s so naturally clean there’s actually nothing in it that’s dirty you could drink it if you were to run some city water obviously every city water you know varies in terms of its sanitation and cleanliness but as much as half of the wall of some municipalities in this country would be on drinkable if you ran it through the same reverse osmosis machines and then last the key in our mind to the whole all natural processes we use ozone as a natural disinfectant that replaces chlorine in most other the the ozone ozone it’s just three gas but a better thing you insert into the very large tank he yeah so the entire every bottle that we have the waters never touch the ground and it’s never touched a chemical of any kind through the entire process of purification I get the question a lot what about impurities in the air what about you know on August things like that so you know a couple a couple facts about that obviously first just we have for our business we are certainly attempting to catch rain in areas like dripping springs Texas where there’s not a ton of being out I industrial activity the errors and it is really clean but is this little known facts I’m finding it impurities in the air are actually heavier than other parts of the atmosphere so when a rain event the rain forms around those more the more heavy component the pollution in the air and it falls from the sky first so we do have a D. only waste in our process is the down spout that we use to clear the first five to ten minutes of any rain event from even entering our filtration and that should in theory catch all of the impurities in the air all at one time before even enters our system so it’s it’s the rain actually acts as a purifying event for the atmosphere and after that first five to ten minutes of any rain event even if there were smog pollution in the air the water that we collect is absolutely pristine yeah 

so I imagine I imagine it sounds like you guys do a lot of testing for this making sure there certain levels in the water staying where they need to be and as you said earlier you guys are the first water bottle company to have been approved to sell rain water and the entire U. S. so if you can just tell us how that felt I don’t know if you were in the process when that was going on with Richard but how did that look like because I know with getting the US also proved to sell in Texas you send it to a lab you’ll get approval if it’s meets all the requirements to get approval in thirty days and then you’ll get you know FDA approved and you’ll be good to go but this sounded like this was never happening in the US so it needed to get approved the legislation phase so do you know a little bit more about that how did that look like was it easy was it hard what yeah sure so I wasn’t at the company when Richard got approval back in two thousand two but I know from talking to Richard that it took him four years to get the state to sign off so it was certainly not the seamless process that you just talked about first also and actually exciting we just went through the process again we just got approval to bottle rain water in the state of Mississippi so our long term vision of Richard rainwater is to collect rain in lots of different communities all over the country and then to keep the rain as close to where we catch it and to consume the rain as close to where we catch it as is possible so the cut down our carbon footprint it builds on this concept of local building economies and employment and sustaining a local community based on something that everyone in the community needs to survive water yeah right so our first product project outside of dripping springs Texas was in kill Mississippi with the brewery called lazy magnolia brewing we installed our system into their brewery and then went through the process it took about seven months with the state even though we had fifteen years of of testing going back to the date Richard started and this this system is the one that was approved by Texas it’s very similar yeah the goal will be to have the same purification the same process at every facility where we’re catching rain water and so the quality and the consistency the product will follow the process that we undertake to catch it your affiant bottle it carbonate at and we think is a really exciting opportunity there’s you know the craft beer world has undertaken a boom which is always been great for my time at the bar that those those businesses are in our mind increasingly looking for additional products to to fill downtime on their machines and to make their business not more sustainable in the in the sense of assisting in the environment but more sustainable from a business reality so most breweries have equipment that we can use cuts down on our capital expense makes us an ideal partner for for those for those businesses and the folks over at leaving only have been have been thrilled about this cutting edge Mississippi reality you know they’re they’re going to be on the the leading the leading lines of rain water and clean water concepts in our mind you know it sounds simple when you talk about just bottling it but if you thought about corporate buildings and commercial buildings becoming run on rain water or instead of you know thinking about how to prevent flooding some by running rain water into less dangerous places which is absolutely something that is important and spin in places like Houston in Mississippi and New Orleans exactly like what if we could take over time that water and instead of just making it less dangerous turned it into a resource when you think about you know places like flint Michigan when you think about California and Las Vegas and some of the concerns that we’re having about people running out of rain water running out of water to drink running out of water to run their farm you know it’s certainly a more futuristic view but what if we can transport that water more efficiently from places where we get an abundance of it to the point where it’s dangerous to places where today it’s dangerous because we don’t have enough

yes so it’s it sounds like not only as this rain water pretty sustainable but if set up correctly you can also prevent issues or leave issues like I guess I’m flooding the issues in flint Michigan yes Sir it’s don’t get me wrong work well as a tiny small business in Austin Texas we’re not we’re certainly I clean we can solve the flooding issue in New Orleans four and we definitely you know we do go out of our way to be charitable in terms of in our mind sort of two big groups the the communities where we live and work and sell our rain water catch our rain water we try to be active participants on in all kinds of philanthropy in those in those communities and we also think about the global human community of which six hundred sixty million people live without immediate access to clean water and water borne illness is one of the largest cause of death on the planet we are aware that by being in the business of clean water were part of those problems in those realities and we’re we’re trying to be as cognizant of that as we can as we build our business practices man so I would say flooding you know flooding in flint fall in the category of things were as firing to be yeah yeah part of soap solving we’re gonna have to sell a bunch more water and build a bunch more resources before you know we’re a material component of our issues of a worse but the point is we’re thinking about them yeah part of the reason why he as part of the reason why we got involved in Richardson why trying to figure out how to scale of business there was dependent upon the weather in a place like Texas where in dripping springs we have we have droughts so it was not a simple thing to decide to get involved in and it was not a it was not a super obvious pathway to scaling capacity expansion so we’re really excited about the Mississippi development and our partners there and we’re already looking at projects in Houston Atlanta San Antonio North Carolina we’re we’re excited about the pipeline of additional expansion project potentially immense projects in you know in the northeast or the Midwest that might reliance now yeah sometime in the future too so 

so kind of to ask you a little bit more about the manufacturing side of this it sounds like you guys have a good lock down on how to catch this water how to clean it up and had a bottle it but what would be other like difficulties are hurdles you guys have experienced with with the Richards rain water is it teaching teaching the public that this stuff is sustainable and get the drinker is it getting approval in different states what would be one of the more more difficult tasks that you as CEO have to deal with sure so I think you know certainly were like any small company building our brands telling our story just a general awareness of who we are what we’re about why it’s important and how good the water is is a challenge but beyond that you need to Richard rainwater you know in most C. P. G. consumer packaged goods businesses you are your best business reality for manufacturing standpoint is consolidating manufacturing in as few locations as is possible and driving efficiencies through economies of scale and in a lot of cases they were leveraged traditional co Packers to do just that in our case you can call easy magnolia co Packer but it’s really more than that we’re going to tap into their customer base we’re gonna tap into their distribution and we have a on much more aligned interests than a typical co Packer relationship and I envision that being the relationship that we try to develop with every partner that we install art where we install our system and become business partners more than co Packer customer relationship it’s important to us because it’s gonna be the ability to have lots of different places feel and be treated like a local business partners which we think increasingly and in our country people care about that everywhere we go you know Texas is being on Texas so it’s it’s uniquely strong here but I think everywhere folks are very interested in supporting the people that live next door to them and we think that this model will create foster that type of community in lots of different places and is a unique attributes of what we’re trying to do however it also creates the challenges of managing you know lots of you know node like manufacturing facilities which is counter intuitive to how most most consumer goods companies are structured so that also creates challenges of managing weather and insuring tanks are full and where they need to be in lots of different places managing lots of different partners all kinds of different logistical challenges that exist because of the way that we’re gonna choose to grow our business I personally think that the challenges are worth it in terms of the alignment of interest with our partners and and the local communities where we’re gonna expand into as we have access to more capacity in in these partner partner relationships 

so it sounds like trying to utilize that southern hospitality and other states trying to you keep bringing up the word community which I love using here I feel like Texas is very closely nets when it comes to helping each other out we both know Austin is a booming CBG community and we we have a lead send all stars and leaders all over Texas kind of helping each other out have you felt that within this community not just from you know retail clients hotel clients but like whenever you have a question whenever you’re you’re thinking of expansion like going out from dripping springs Austin do you feel like there’s a lot of lot of connectivity sure I mean absolutely right and we do our best to be to be part of that we do weekly workout activities with a number of other leading Austin brands we do a bunch of work with photo by charities focused in Austin on clean water principally in Africa like well aware and the nobility project and the gazelle foundation we try to be really supportive of the Andy Roddick foundation in their efforts to to build community for folks after school programs and in the summer we think it’s an important part of being being a component of any community but we take it actually seriously because we sell water which is something that our customers need to survive it’s not just it’s not just a great candy bar or you know a new a new shirt yeah or something that can bring people out of joy but much more of a want the need you know it’s also unique time in Austin because there’s a bunch of local sparkling water companies that have sprouted up so that’s exciting you know I think in some cases they’re they’re not even really they were doing different things and solving different means and providing different products for and for different different times but that’s been fascinating to yeah I am I am as in because I know 

I know especially here and and Texas Houston Austin San Antonio Dallas we’re kind of turning into these fanatics of water bottle companies specially sparkling water and we have obviously big players who have been around forever some French names very very attractive but the thing about yells water is it comes from the sky yeah it’s rain water so do you think what do you think I think this is kind of obvious just kind of gave you a niece within that category of bottling water right the no one else is doing it so you guys got to take over that space and kind of squeeze into the whole category has that been something useful something proud that you guys Kerry absolutely so what we see in the water market is number one bottled water not sparkling waters one of the biggest markets in the world in in terms of bottled beverages and the sparkling water categories is much smaller but growing exceptionally fast as people switch from drinking says sugar carbonated beverages to more healthy alternatives and then when you think about the water mark it as you go into a whole foods are H. E. B. or Bucky’s or wherever you you wherever you’re buying your water in for the most part they can be grouped into to produce large buckets there either bottled at the source waters that are typically bottled internationally which is what those are sorry bothered so bottle at the source would be Pellegrino Perrier okay I call upon things like that right so they’ve Fiji they’ve found a very interesting source of water that has been unaffected by the development of human human construction an industrial development and the bottle it and it’s great water and you know typically the water’s work we compete with most frequently but in a world where folks are really cognizant of the carbon footprint that they’re creating at the that the companies that they’re supporting or creating as an increasing focus for for people to bottle water in a single source and a single place which is the definition only what they’re doing and then sending it all over the world the carbon footprint from that is is challenging to explain as folks start to focus on that more and then you’ve got a bunch of other waters are mostly bottled in the United States that typically source their water from the same water sources that come out of your faucet so we think we have this really interesting intersection of from a purer source of water that is differentiated but can be transported or at least found in lots of different places without the packaging coming on first so we think that we can catch the rain in all kinds of different places bottle it there and then again trying not to move it very far from where it’s caught and bottle to where it’s consumed which will open up all kinds of really interesting things on on the back and in terms of partnerships where we really focus on recycle or reuse that again would be very sing if you were you know going all over the world to find your bottles are all over the country to find your bottles verses partnering with folks to find the packaging catch the rain follow the rain sell the rain all in Austin or all in Houston now you know where the bottles are you can measure and track and figure out how to go about finding them after they’ve been consumed and try to make sure you’re doing your part on the back and to be part of the the closed loop sustainable cycle that is difficult if you’re telling a sustainable story to be part of a single use packaging business you know single use packaging is in you know generally considered by by folks to be bad for the environment so we want to be focused on how do we how are we best about packaging that we can be and then how do we contribute on the back and which is where we really think the differentiation is gonna calm we think there’s a lot of miss I’m not sure what the right word is there’s a lot of fun the packaging reality in our mind is much more holistic than the conversation typically starts and ends the typical typical conversation were part of as plastic is bad which we agree but you know we we think that the best packaging from a holistic perspective in terms of where did you get the packaging how did you transported how did you feel it once you fill that how far to go after that you know there’s a there’s a much bigger conversation about what packaging is best what is always consistent is that less packaging better than more and that recycling and re use of that same packaging is better than not so we’re going to focus our energy on you know those things that are universally true yeah we’re looking at some technologies where you could create a dispensing machine so that you can install it in a hotel or a or but airport or something catch the rain off the rough dispense it into a multi use you know water bottle as opposed to a single use that as a future again future aspirations that of course and now yeah yeah and 

I think the the what I like about your company is that it’s not used you don’t just differentiate like we catch rain water and we put bubbles in it and that’s why we’re the best you guys are out there kinda trying to change the way people are drinking water bike using a more sustainable approach working with breweries for example and kind of trying to change the way it’s it’s being done and I think those are the companies that kind of stand out especially with the new age consumers of not just we don’t just want a product we want to know the story we want to know that we’re helping we want to know that were part of this whole group this whole ecosystem so I think you guys are doing a really good job with that and I I know that you guys you said something about an investment and I know that you guys rebranded from this with we we don’t have the older models but it used to be an older bottle with a little darker look kind of like a class a dark cloud in the bag and then you guys completely switched over to this eye catching bottle with new branding packaging looks pretty sexy to me eye catching know dark clouds anymore so can you tell us a little bit about more about that and also when you came on a CO I don’t think we mentioned that but you came on a couple years ago but the rebranding was done recently yeah so we we bought made and we made an investment in research company he’s is still a consultant and his wife Susie will be important people for us at the company both my heritage and economics for many years to come but we made an investment in the business in October of two thousand seventeen at the time we made the investment I became the CO I helped kinda negotiate the deal and inherited the responsibility of overseeing the capacity expansion in the new packaging when we made the investment and I have to give credit where credit is due the the package re design was done by a local company Helms workshop Christian homes in his his team were fantastic they’ve done a lot of good work in town very well known and they definitely I think hit this one out of the park people definitely people seem to love it down that’s not my area of I differ a deferred to the feedback but yeah we get we get a lot of really positive comments about both the sparkling water and the still water package and in the land of or in a world where folks are instagramming their meal before they eat it nearly universally it’s it is an important component of building a great consumer packaged goods businesses having something people feel good about it again taking photos with yeah yeah so that that happen around two thousand sixteen end of two thousand seventeen October two thousand seventeen we made the investment and we did the package in the next it was finished sometime in March or April of last year two thousand eighteen and yeah so now okay now been in the works for awhile yeah and we recently I 

I follow you guys on Instagram and I saw like an end of the year post saying that you guys got in I think it was a thousand new doors and something something that right that many but we did pretty well for having a company with only one sales person yeah going in the middle of last year we ended the year having added about four hundred fifty all Andreas accounts so bars restaurants hotels spas with with sorry to interrupt but I definitely want to ask about that because that seems as as I go into the the C. P. G. industry and and grow my my brand it’s it’s very interesting to me seeing how people utilize the food service side meaning bars hotels restaurants because that’s where people go in and they’re going to taste something they’re gonna try something verses a a retail store grocery store they’re not to try anything that yeah you can demo you can sample at the store level but when we were at a restaurant and a bar they’re definitely going to consume something so how has that helped you guys especially in Austin where everyone goes out to you like who came up with that strategy how are you guys taking advantage of it and what are your favorite are bars cooler than than restaurants or hotels more effective what would you think about all that sure so it was a deliberate strategy although I will it from a strategic standpoint it was partly driven by the reality of the capacity of one plant depended upon rain so it was it was really for two reasons the first is exactly what you said if we go in and we talked to the general manager or the owner of you know Elizabeth street cafe and we convince them that this water is great we let them try it and they get on board then they transport our message to their customers and they transport our products to their customers and their customers naturally trust them to be a fantastic food service establishment that’s why they’re there so I think it helped us build our brand to do that it was intentional and also a function of go walking in the whole foods there’s seventy two waters seventy thousand sparkling water kinds out there right and if you walk into a bar typically we’ve got one or two so it it it was intentional to do that to find those partners that are a step that had their own established brands convince them that our brand was put should be part of that it was a successful strategy here in Austin in particular and and one that we’re continuing to deploy in other markets in Texas and then now as we access lazy magnolias extra capacity increasingly in other markets outside of Texas as well our commitment on that side of things is to not move the water more than five hundred miles that’s the goal from where it’s caught first and over time to try to shrink that to a hundred miles or less and then as far as the second reason is just the reality of you know an H. E. B. or a whole foods but or Randall’s or they just buy so much water that we need to make sure that our process sees and our equipment and our people and our brain collection were all sufficient to fill those orders and not disappoint our customers in anyway so we’re really excited about that for kind of a middle two thousand nineteen I think you’ll start seeing us in a number of the grocery groceries that you’re most familiar with and we’re we’re really excited about that it’s a critical component to building a great brand is to have both on premise and off premise exposure so that people are seeing you multiple times and and certainly have access to buy you after they decide that they like it 

yeah that definitely agree trying to focus both on the food service side of things the educate the consumer and then being readily available in the retail space whole foods it should be like you said so we we need to wrap up quickly but I have two more questions for you first and we’ll do one at a time but what if you can tell the audience a little bit of about what inspires you what like why why CEO of a water company and not being here and also one of the C. over a tech start up Sir so my background I I started bankers investment banker and then I did mergers and acquisitions in the corporate setting and healthcare companies and then I joined a hedge fund so I had the the soul sucking financial background prior to the two rain water so the ability to be part of a company that’s thinking about things well beyond just the selling of a product you know we are every day talking about how to be better participants in our local communities we are talking about partnerships with folks that are thinking about people who live with clean water we’re talking about technology that would eliminate at least part of the packaging that comes along with our business and then eventually we’re going to be investing in this concept of close loop and how do you really transformation only change an industry that’s huge and growing quickly but maybe lacks this the sum of innovation that that other industries half so it’s exciting it’s makes it makes me feel a lot more worthwhile getting up everyday trying to think about those things and it’s been a really great year fostered by meeting a lot of really great people hiring some really great employees having a lot of really exciting conversations and thinking about ways we can make bigger impacts in the future a full arm no well definitely will said and and 

Lastly one of my questions I like asking founders owners CEOS people who run kind of operations of things but how do you manage what you want to do what you should do and what you have to do on a daily basis not well I had the part some people ask as one of the things that it strikes me amount running such a small company is part of the initial success is but to NASA the and and a willingness to do all of those things as often as you can with enough energy and passion that you get some other folks excited and we did that I think pretty well for the first year now it’s about setting up a business process sees and people and practices that are more scalable than the sort of tenacity on hopefully keeping that culture of hard work and diligent attention to detail and always thinking about ways we can do stuff better but you know I think a lot of it for the first year was just of a willingness to try really hard not to lose and to try to to to transfer what we felt about our product on account a one to one basis to as many people as we could and now the job is to take those messages in those people and and the more scalable ways to build a brand the social media the the the events the exposure in the store pricing and promotion and all the things that people who’ve run these kinds of businesses successfully for a long time have deployed I think we’re kind of at that phase now we’re trying to think about was about one on one and more about one to many and 

We know we’ve got a really good product we think it’s important to the things that we stand for that  are those other additional elements of not just selling a bottled water but selling a mission or  an idea that this could be done differently and take it from there beautiful arm so again Taylor more we want to thank you for having for for coming to the show very quite interesting what you guys are doing and I think there’s a whole like little revolution being spiked up behind the scenes and just to give a shout out to some places where people can find some your bottled water in Texas at least can you name drop a couple places where they could find you guys just so sure so we’re at we’re at all of the bunkhouse properties of things this is San Jose joke you know most of them acquire Mormon restaurants we are at the line hotel the four seasons in Houston and Dallas we’re at the Ritz in Dallas were cosmic coffee were at I’ve let me think I can order online you can order it online please please calm right now we’re running we’re running a partnership with the nobility project and well aware so that as much as forty percent of your order will go towards a very specific clean water project in Africa that part that we’re partnering with nobody project in well aware on to fund here sometime in the next month or two yes so if you’re in Austin please go to the website and and and by water directly from us so that we can make sure that project gets funded and you know you can drink water to give water I think yeah the tagline that we’ve come up with it’s beautiful yeah and I guess we’re gonna have to have you on here another time because I would love to talk about how you guys help during the water crisis in Austin and I know you guys also have a pretty cool subscription deal for when it comes to water but we’re gonna have to end this for today and just have you on some other time great thanks for having me yeah of course thank you Taylor for joining us this week and letting us know how you and your team are helping transform the water seen here in Texas I think it’s all quite interesting and I think there’s lots more to be done for our listeners if you guys would like to purchase some Richards rain water or donate to the charity through their website you can do so by clicking the link in our show notes the packing taste podcast team includes your host me axle brother producer Mariah Gosset audio engineer Jake walls we want to give a special thanks to found in Austin and you can find us on all major podcast platforms including iTunes stitcher and Spotify thanks for listening